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The history that I have read is not clear on that. I keep reading something about the deal having not happened only due to a mere $15,000. But if what I read about Jack being a cut-throat businessman are true, then perhaps it could be said that his intentions with the then-in-the-garage (and therefore easily purchasable) Apple were to eliminate a potential competitor as much or more than any tech he may glean from the purchase. Good thing for the world of computing that Jack's negotiations with the two Steves fell through.
There's is an interview with Chuck Peddle on YouTube ( see if I can dig it up ), maybe it's the VCF east ones... they are long but audio is bad, he discusses the early days of Apple, he was good friends with both of them and helped Woz get the 6502 working in the first Apple prototype.

He shared some details about how the meetings with Tramiel as he was present, Woz was not there. In Chuck's opinion, they were no where near close to signing a deal and Jobs could sense that he just wanted to screw him over the same way Jack screwed over Bill Gates, paying a $25,000 one off payment for the basic.

Jack wanted something like $15,000 for Apple. Steve obviously walked away frustrated and later told Chuck, "Screw Tramiel, I don't like him anyway"
 
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Jack wanted something like $15,000 for Apple. Steve obviously walked away frustrated and later told Chuck, "Screw Tramiel, I don't like him anyway"
Just imagine if Jack had added one more zero to that number though. Seriously. Two young guys still in the garage at the time, with no knowledge of what the future would necessarily bring. The larger the number, the more likely they might have considered it, despite having disliked Jack T. Then again, it may not have made logical sense to pay too much more than $15k (in 1970's dollars) for what two kids in a garage were doing.

Anyway, if you ever do find that video, I'd love to see it.
 

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Just imagine if Jack had added one more zero to that number though. Seriously. Two young guys still in the garage at the time, with no knowledge of what the future would necessarily bring. The larger the number, the more likely they might have considered it, despite having disliked Jack T. Then again, it may not have made logical sense to pay too much more than $15k (in 1970's dollars) for what two kids in a garage were doing.

Anyway, if you ever do find that video, I'd love to see it.
Here you go. Start watching from the time embedded in the URL by hitting play


The VCF videos are also good, there's some more detail

 
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