A Classic Mac neophyte journey begins.

Bradsco

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Growing up in a college town, oddly there were few Macs in my circles. It was always Commodore, with the occasional Atari or Sinclair. I might not be starting at the very beginning, but I'm pretty happy to be starting at all.

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Patrick

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NICE, an SE/30 they are pretty popular. The plain SE looks like it should accept 1.44 disks. so thats handy.

cosmetically they seem ok. Have you tried turning them on?
 
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Bradsco

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NICE, an SE/30 they are pretty popular. The plain SE looks like it should accept 1.44 disks. so thats handy.

cosmetically they seem ok. Have you tried turning them on?
It would have made a better story if I had taken more pictures, but yes they both work. The SE/30 (Doug) is essentially pristine inside, while the SE (Bob) has some battle scars. From what I can tell though, Bob was laying on his face for a very long time. When the battery spewed, it mostly landed on the chassis toward the front, but some dribbles also touched the SIMMs. Took them out, neutralized with vinegar and washed with alcohol. Reassembled and... nothing. So I took a chance with the Dremel and a wire-wheel brush and lightly scraped away more corrosion and reinstalled. Voila, life again! More work and preventative measures to come for sure, but for now both patients are stable.
 
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It would have made a better story if I had taken more pictures, but yes they both work. The SE/30 (Doug) is essentially pristine inside, while the SE (Bob) has some battle scars. From what I can tell though, Bob was laying on his face for a very long time. When the battery spewed, it mostly landed on the chassis toward the front, but some dribbles also touched the SIMMs. Took them out, neutralized with vinegar and washed with alcohol. Reassembled and... nothing. So I took a chance with the Dremel and a wire-wheel brush and lightly scraped away more corrosion and reinstalled. Voila, life again! More work and preventative measures to come for sure, but for now both patients are stable.

That is a heart-stopping, heart-pounding, and fantastic recount of what you have done to rescue Doug's brother, Bob. Kudos @Bradsco!
 

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Keen eye! That's the underside edge of the ADB keyboard! (Correction... Apple Standard Keyboard. Still learning!)

Cool! I have one of those, too. Yeah, it is the ASK (Apple Standard Keyboard) without the function keys. ADB is Apple Desktop Bus, an Apple proprietary thingy for keyboards, mice, joysticks, and the like.
 

Bradsco

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Cool! I have one of those, too. Yeah, it is the ASK (Apple Standard Keyboard) without the function keys. ADB is Apple Desktop Bus, an Apple proprietary thingy for keyboards, mice, joysticks, and the like.
I was under the impression that ADB was part of the name at some point, but again just learning.
 

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I was under the impression that ADB was part of the name at some point, but again just learning.

No worries. :) One of the documents by Apple back in the day explains the ADB Manager provides an overview of the ADB (with some modern grammar correction and images of the ADB symbol along with connectors):

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On most Macintosh computers, the ADB is used to communicate with the keyboard, the mouse, and other user-input devices.

The Apple Desktop Bus is a low-speed serial bus that connects input devices, such as keyboards, mouse devices, and graphics tablets, to a Macintosh computer or other hardware equipment. For the number of devices, you can connect to the ADB, see Guide to the Macintosh Family Hardware, second edition. Macintosh computers come equipped with one or two ADB connectors. Although a particular model might include two ADB connectors, all models come with only one Apple Desktop Bus.

The ADB is Apple Computer’s standard interface for input devices such as keyboards and mouse devices. Apple provides a mouse with each Macintosh computer, except for models equipped with a trackball. Additionally, Apple offers various ADB keyboard options, such as the Apple Standard keyboard, the Apple Extended keyboard, and the Apple Adjustable keyboard.

Macs not using ADB include the original Mac 128k released in 1984, the subsequent Mac 512k, and the popular Mac Plus.​
 
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Patrick

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FWIW i will often say a `ADB Keyboard` in a generic way to say what connection the keyboard uses. (vs the phone jack thingie OG macs used or a PS2 keyboard.)
 

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battery bumbed not worthstanding. I always thought a Mac SE would be a good starter mac to get into the hobby. Its pre a lot of the surface mount caps. So they don't usually cause an issue. and ADB keyboards and mice are easier to find then what a Plus or easier macs use.

The Mac SE/30(and later macs) on the other hand will surly need a recap. and that can be kinda hard entry point to get into the hobby.

IMHO

p.s. i'm still working up my skill set to be able to recap the later macs my self.
 

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FWIW i will often say a `ADB Keyboard` in a generic way to say what connection the keyboard uses. (vs the phone jack thingie OG macs used or a PS2 keyboard.)

Right.

The "Apple Desktop Bus Keyboard" was the first ADB keyboard released by Apple on September 15, 1986, along with the Apple IIGS. Then on March 2, 1987, Apple released the "Apple Standard Keyboard" along with the Macintosh SE and Macintosh II. :)
 

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battery bumbed not worthstanding. I always thought a Mac SE would be a good starter mac to get into the hobby. Its pre a lot of the surface mount caps. So they don't usually cause an issue. and ADB keyboards and mice are easier to find then what a Plus or easier macs use.

The Mac SE/30(and later macs) on the other hand will surly need a recap. and that can be kinda hard entry point to get into the hobby.

IMHO

p.s. i'm still working up my skill set to be able to recap the later macs my self.

Yup. Any compact Mac will need recapping, regardless. There are new reloaded mobo options for the SE and SE/30 if the stock mobo was bombed due to battery or capacitor leakage or other reason and cannot be saved.
 

Bradsco

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Yup. Any compact Mac will need recapping, regardless. There are new reloaded mobo options for the SE and SE/30 if the stock mobo was bombed due to battery or capacitor leakage or other reason and cannot be saved.
I think I can handle a recap. Really though I need to clean up this keyboard and mouse. They both work, but some keys are iffy.