Tecmar Mac Drive (10 MB) A serial hard drive?! (The first Macintosh external hard drive)

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Hey all,

I wanted to share something neat I picked up at VCF Midwest this year, a Tecmar Mac Drive, perhaps the first external hard drive for the Macintosh. This drive uses a serial port to connect to the Mac, and some software shenanigans to get around the storage size limitations of the initial Macintosh file system.

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The seller, Peter, who's a fan of the channel, graciously accepted my $40 offer for this hunk of metal. And boy, is this thing a chonker! It took the combined strength of me and @eric to open the case. Inside appears to be a 10MB MFM hard drive by Tandon, model TM 502. Despite not wanting to risk blowing the two RIFA caps in the unit, which looked a bit cracked, I was gently peer pressured into turning the drive on.

Thankfully, no explosions happened! The drive spins up, and the red light on the front blinks periodically. I can't see or hear the head moving. Although when it's off, the greased wheel toward the front of the drive allows the head to move.

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It didn't come with any cables, but I used a straight through serial cable from the free pile to plug in the drive to my Mac 512k. However, the Tecmar software (we tried multiple versions) simply say the drive can't be recognized. It's unknown if that means it can't see the drive, or if the drive isn't formatted, or what.

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So I'll have to tinker with it more... but I'm curious, has anyone else owned this kind of drive?❓

They made a model that had a smaller drive inside, but also had a removable SyQuest cartridge drive, which is cool. Apparently the model I have is the 2nd revision, as it has a 2nd serial port for plugging a printer into. BTW, the paper taped to the top of the machine says to plug the hard drive into the Modem port of the Mac, and plug the printer into Serial 2 on the hard drive.

The drive has two layers of boards (at least) inside to convert it the thing to serial. Apparently some reports indicate that the drive can be converted to SCSI. There is a 50-pin ribbon cable on one of the boards, but I'd like to inspect the chips further to determine what signals actually may be being sent through it. Also, the software tricks to make this thing into multiple partitions may simply not work if connected via SCSI? Who knows...

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I did end up replacing the two RIFA caps, just in case. The drive spins up and sounds normal, but again the head doesn't seem to be accessing. Perhaps this is only done once the software sends a command? Or maybe something inside isn't happy. 🤔

Either way, enjoy this chonk from 1985!

-Steve
 

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Slightly dumb question. Did you try the apple HD20 driver? I doubt it would work but might be worth a try just in case?!
 

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Slightly dumb question. Did you try the apple HD20 driver? I doubt it would work but might be worth a try just in case?!
That's a good question! This drive I believe was also capable of working with the Mac 128K, where the HD20 needed the 512K to work.

One of the original BlueSCSI System images I booted from had that driver, but it didn't seem to do anything.

From what I've read, this uses a special driver which loads as the system boots, and then it can mount the drive. However, the versions I've downloaded don't seem to see the drive.

The drive seemingly wants to work, although that could be my own false assumption. This is the first MFM hard drive I have, so for all I know it's very angry and the red blinking light means "nope!" 😅 But I'm open to suggestions. I did take a quick visual peek inside of the lid of the hard drive and it looked to be in good shape with no scratches, etc.
 
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Worked with a 128k?! Bonkers
Yep! They had to use volume shenanigans to get around the maximum storage sizes of the original system software, hah!

This MacGUI article states:

"You can partition your MacDrive in up to 20 volumes. Of these 20 volumes, you can mount two at a time on the Macintosh 128K, or four at a time on the Mac 512K. Wow, aren't you glad you spent the extra money to get a 512K Fat Mac?
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I vividly recall seeing the "Tecmar Sweetens Apples" full page ads in my early MacUser magazine issues back in the day. I recall thinking, "Man that thing is massive!" even back then. But, Steve, after seeing your photos, that thing looks even bigger! 😅

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I have a GCC HyperDrive 10MB kit, which is first edition and uses an MMI drive, straight out of the same era as the TecMar. Of course, you seem to have a full-height drive, but as shown in the Ad above, they did have the smaller edition 10MB half-height drive. Not sure if those were MMI. Maybe not.

My Flickr account has photos of my drive kit:

A year ago, I fired up my Mac512 with the HyperDrive and it wouldn't boot. Since my LED is similar in function to yours, the way it lights may be similar or the same as yours...


I later had to use the HyperDrive software to reformat the drive, and then put a System Folder on it, and then it started booting. I doubt GCC's software would format your drive because the controller is different. You would probably need to track down the all too elusive TecMar software disk.

Mac128 and I were discussing the topic of the TecMar drive software back in 2009, and SUM Tools may or may not work on your drive:

This guy on EBAY is selling a different variant of the same drive, and it looks like he has the complete kit with box, so I would advise reaching out to him to see if a floppy disk was included, and even if it isn't, maybe his kit includes printed documentation which makes mention of the software.

Anyway, at 26:58 in my Public video, you can see how the drive LED responds when the drive is formatted and working properly...

 
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The Hyperdrive one is neat! And yes, this is a bigggg drive.

Thankfully the MacGUI article I linked to above (after you log in) has THREE versions of the Tecmar software, one of the later ones should even work with System 6.

Sadly, as I mentioned above, the software simply says it doesn't recognize the drive. So it could either be not formatted, not functioning correctly, or not plugged in correctly. 🤷‍♂️ I only have the one straight through serial cable, but I'm unsure how the original was wired. So many variables!

However, since it's not a SCSI drive (seemingly), I think there are less options of trying to get this thing "seen" outside of the Tecmar software. So yes, like you suspected it may not work with the above software. I saw the same thread about the SUM software, but that doesn't seem to do it either.

I'll keep tinkering... but hopefully someone comes across my post and can confirm the cable pinout or... something. :)
 
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