Unpopulated mystery header on slotloaders?

Trekintosh

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Noticed this unpopulated header while playing with the logic board on my G3, here's a picture with it highlighted from wikimedia:

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My guess is an unpopulated mezzanine slot or similar, but does anyone have any actionable info? Could be fun to hook something up to it...
 

Nixontheknight

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Probably, they did axe it on Rev C or D iMacs, and one of those revisions still had the header, so it was very late in development that they axed it
 

Oelmuvun

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Don't have anything important to add, just some side notes. Some 1999 machines had DVD decoder(? It's been a long time, fuzzy memory) plugged in on the battery-side, but not sure about the one you circled.
Some pictures in Apple's service manual show a similar header along side the Down Converter Board populated near where you have circled.. Though the board you have pictured looks like the later version and slightly different layout.
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Trekintosh

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Probably, they did axe it on Rev C or D iMacs, and one of those revisions still had the header, so it was very late in development that they axed it
Makes sense.
Don't have anything important to add, just some side notes. Some 1999 machines had DVD decoder(? It's been a long time, fuzzy memory) plugged in on the battery-side, but not sure about the one you circled.
Some pictures in Apple's service manual show a similar header along side the Down Converter Board populated near where you have circled.. Though the board you have pictured looks like the later version and slightly different layout.
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Mmm ok so that means that smaller unpopulated header must also be a PCI connector of some sort, pretty sure that's the only way a decoder board could work, unless it's like... PC Card or something, which is just PCI anyways. I'll investigate that one too at some point.

Good find on the populated mezzanine socket in the SM though. Hard to tell but it sure looks like the same connector as the Rev A/B imacs but with some kind of dummy plug in place. Maybe the early rev imacs had it too and they've all been lost to time?

I found some of the Molex 52760-1609 that are said to be the mezzanine slots for cheap and I'll solder one on just to try it. Still need to find the mating connector, there's a surprisingly large variety of them.

Someone on reddit posted pics of their DVD decoder board. I might try and find one of them just for fun.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VintageApple/comments/w3y71i
 
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Trekintosh

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I found the Columbus (iMac g3 tray) schematics which have a pinout of the mezzanine slot. I’d be surprised if they changed between boards, but next time I have a chance I’ll probe the power and grounds that I can find on my slot loader to confirm they’re at least in the same spot.

then I’ll make a relatively simple board that breaks out the pci lanes into usb 3 sockets so I can use usb 3 cables to break into pci slots for testing.