A Tale of Two Classics

phunguss

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Recent finds... one Classic from Free Geek Minneapolis for $10, listed as "No HDD, bad analog board," second one from Craigs List listed as "battary bomb" for $5 (their spelling).
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What I spares have on hand: A working system (Classic motherboard and Classic II analog board from an old Hackintosh conversion before I was a collector), and a scrap frame and analog board I found where someone had clipped lots of the wires (with a homebrew transparent case not completed). The tube was damaged (tip broken and gas vented) and I used it to melt my plexiglass cover for the Hackintosh conversion.
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This will be an attempt at a "quick fix" to get both working with the spares I have on hand, basically rendering my spares as projects for a full recap and restoration in the future. I can put my working analog board into the bad one. I can put my good frame and motherboard into the battery bombed one.

Step 1: disassembly and damage assessment

Battery bombed was indeed crusty. I could not remove the motherboard so that will have to soak in vinegar for some time. I could not remove the motherboard without fear of damage, so I removed the whole frame from the case (tricky to get those 4 screws when you can't remove the floppy or motherboard).
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Bad analog board: Yep, that got some crusty goo as well, but easily repairable frame. I won't delve into the recap yet.
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More updates will come after some cleaning and electrical testing.
 
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Garrett

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One of my first Mac purchases after getting back into the hobby was a Classic from a nice lady in Minneapolis. I don't think I paid much for it, but had I taken the time to shake it first... well, I should have paid less! I was able to eventually restore the entire thing to working shape, but I won't say it was a simple recap job like I expected. Lesson learned!
 
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phunguss

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I was able to clean up the bad analog board bottom frame, hit it with a wire wheel and spray painted it. Don't mind the paint runs, you won't see it inside.
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It looks like I have 3 bad analog boards, so I am ordering recap kits for two of them. I just don't have all the capacitor values on hand. I still have 3 good tubes (assumed), 3 good frames, 2 working logic boards, two good cases... So this battery bomb one will take some work, but I think it is recoverable, and maybe that will go into my homebrew transparent case.

This bombed logic board popped 3 caps on its own, but I should be able to clean up and mend the traces or at least bodge them if needed. RTC legs need some help as well as the sound chip.
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phunguss

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Having too many disassembled parts laying around, so I just put the working parts into the better case (marked bad analog board), so I have less clutter.
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I put in an older BlueSCSI 1.1 and I wanted to see the activity/power lights without modifying the case. Cheap and easy way was to use a twisty-tie on the back vent.
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So if it's backed into a dark corner, you should see the reflection on the wall.
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And a couple of tubes sitting on the shelf until I receive my cap kits for the analog boards.
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I found a loose sticker inside the battery bombed case, so I taped it onto the case, not knowing what it was. Maybe cost of repair?
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And then I saw a similar tag on the "bad analog board" tube... so maybe the battery bombed one had a tube replaced or serviced at some point.
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Looks like that one says 203.18
 

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makes me wish there was a Free Geek in my state. I did find a 637CD Money Magazine at an ewaste facility a few towns away from me. Anyone willing to donate a full 68040?
 

phunguss

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I received my two analog board cap kits from Console 5 a while ago, but I have been buried in other projects. Finally had the time to dig into the Battery Bombed analog board. The backside was quite goopy.
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Then I removed all the caps. Not sure if I lifted that pad or it was too far gone (what is that black etching, do I have to remove it?).
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It was definitely leaking most caps, but in particular around that etched part.
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Liberal amounts of IPA and a toothbrush to clean it up as best I could. Let it hang dry for an hour. Soldered in new caps. Used the cap leg to bridge the lifted pad.
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Reassembled the frame and guts, and hoped for the best.
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I guess it was good enough! Image is rock solid but I may have to adjust the vertical size a bit. This motherboard is one I previously recapped, so I still need to go back and see if I can rescue the battery bombed motherboard.
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So I now have two fully working Classics and some spare parts that I might still be able to get working (without a case). Or maybe in a homebrew transparent case one day.