Adelie help: rage 128 + Xorg = display initialization failed

[Nixontheknight]

I have a Power Mac G4 MDD, which I’m trying to install Adelie on, I’ve asked this all over and haven’t gotten a response yet, but when I boot up the install USB (my MDD has no CD drive and I have no CDs, it boots from a USB 2.0 drive with relative ease (shows up in boot picker) unlike other G4 Macs), it stays on the command line after I boot it through GNU GRUB, and when I type startx, it starts to start it, but fails to initialize the display and exits with code 1. Is there a way to fix this or install a driver without going through QEMU? Or has someone already made an install ISO with the rage 128 driver that works?

 

[Kai Robinson]

@Alf Torp is having similar issues with his G4 Cube

 

[Nixontheknight]

@Alf Torp is having similar issues with his G4 Cube

My MDD fully boots, it’s just that xorg fails to initialize, otherwise it works fine, doesn’t hang

 

[Kai Robinson]

My MDD fully boots, it’s just that xorg fails to initialize, otherwise it works fine, doesn’t hang

What driver are you using? @Action Retro had to disable hardware acceleration to get Rage 128 working in Linux using the r128 driver, iirc.

 

[Nixontheknight]

What driver are you using? @Action Retro had to disable hardware acceleration to get Rage 128 working in Linux using the r128 driver, iirc.

Whatever driver comes on the Adelie installer image, I’m not sure which that is

 

[Alf Torp]

Whatever driver comes on the Adelie installer image, I’m not sure which that is

I am not 100% sure but I believe it is the xf86-video-ati package that is on the install and Live .isos

 

[Alf Torp]

I am not 100% sure but I believe it is the xf86-video-ati package that is on the install and Live .isos for ppc, even though it's called "xf86" etc.

 

[Nixontheknight]

I am not 100% sure but I believe it is the xf86-video-ati package that is on the install and Live .isos

Could be. How do I disable hardware acceleration on Adelie?

 

[Alf Torp]

Could be. How do I disable hardware acceleration on Adelie?

I wish I knew! @Action Retro Help us, O master of faffing around in Adélie

 

[Kai Robinson]

You can disable it in the xorg.conf file - there should be a line for HW Accel that you can comment out.

 

[Alf Torp]

You can disable it in the xorg.conf file - there should be a line for HW Accel that you can comment out.

I'm thick as a brick... this would have to be done on the boot media, before booting, right?

 

[Kai Robinson]

I'm thick as a brick... this would have to be done on the boot media, before booting, right?

The way i remember it, is you should be able to login via text mode console and edit it that way, if the X server doesn't run.

 

[Nixontheknight]

You can disable it in the xorg.conf file - there should be a line for HW Accel that you can comment out.

Ok, I’ll have to try that once I get home from college

 

[Nixontheknight]

You can disable it in the xorg.conf file - there should be a line for HW Accel that you can comment out.

Where would I find the xorg.conf file in Adelie?

 

[Kai Robinson]

Same place as all Linux - /etc/X11/xorg

 

[Nixontheknight]

Same place as all Linux - /etc/X11/xorg

There’s no xorg directory in /etc/X11, let alone an xorg.conf

 

[Action Retro]

Just saw this! Rage 128 is very finicky with the current kernel drivers. In fact, I've gotten it working in BSD with a trial-and-error Xorg.conf file, but I haven't yet in Adelie.

You can try my Xorg.conf though - it might work! http://frogfind.com/files/bsd/xorg.conf

 

[Nixontheknight]

Just saw this! Rage 128 is very finicky with the current kernel drivers. In fact, I've gotten it working in BSD with a trial-and-error Xorg.conf file, but I haven't yet in Adelie.

You can try my Xorg.conf though - it might work! http://frogfind.com/files/bsd/xorg.conf

One, huge fan of your videos, two, that’s another problem. I haven’t got a single Unix/Linux machine in my house, so I can’t get that xorg.conf file onto my install ISO, but I can try my Mac Mini servers because they at least mount the Mac OS Extended partition. I’ll keep you posted if I can move this file to where it needs to go.

EDIT: there’s no room on the Mac OS Extended partition, so I can’t get the file onto the main Adelie partition, period, because I have no free machines and I don’t intend to dual boot any machines I use daily, so for now I’m SOL unless I can type out the xorg.conf file word for word, which only a madman would do. And I’m no sane man, so I’m gonna do it

EDIT 2: 2 steps forward, one step back. Now it’s giving me a “no screens found” error

EDIT 3: another problem rears its ugly head. The install USB never saved my config file

 

[wottle]

Wouldn't you be able to use a MSATA IDE enclosure (I've had good luck with this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GRMUQRG?psc=1&smid=A3TUR5JBYCEPNE&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp) attached via a IDE 2.5 to 3.5 adapter (I've used this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010MKARA?psc=1&smid=A3BYZP0GYB998Y&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp)?

Or you could use the even smaller adapter @ActionRetro used: https://www.amazon.com/Kinamax-ADP-...=sabrent+2.5+to+3.5+ide,electronics,75&sr=1-4


A little long in length, but it doesn't have the height issues of the SATA to IDE adapter, but still gives a cheap way to get a decent sized IDE SSD in your old Macs.

 

[Nixontheknight]

Wouldn't you be able to use a MSATA IDE enclosure (I've had good luck with this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01GRMUQRG?psc=1&smid=A3TUR5JBYCEPNE&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp) attached via a IDE 2.5 to 3.5 adapter (I've used this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010MKARA?psc=1&smid=A3BYZP0GYB998Y&ref_=chk_typ_imgToDp)?

A little long in length, but it doesn't have the height issues of the SATA to IDE adapter, but still gives a cheap way to get a decent sized IDE SSD in your old Macs.

It’s not the hard drive that’s the problem. I haven’t even gotten to the installer, I’m still trying to run the installer on the flash drive that I flashed the install iso onto.