Color Classic CRT geometry adjustment

Action Retro

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Hey all!

I cant' for the life of me figure out how to fix this geometry issue I'm having. The bottom of the CC screen is slanted up on the left-hand side, even though the top appears to be straight to my eye.

Also, the image needs to be rotated a hair counterclockwise.

Attached is a picture of the screen. Anyone know how to adjust this?
 

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This Does Not Compute

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Fixing a rotated screen image involves physically turning the yoke assembly at the rear of the CRT...I don't think the circuitry from that era supported rotating the image in software. The procedure is documented on page 129 of the Color Classic service manual. Doing the adjustment requires more courage than I think I could muster.
 

wottle

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I can't remember if there was much play in the mounting screws that hold the CRT to the front frame, but if possible, you could loosen the 4 corner screws and try to shift it in that direction a bit. Quite a bit safer than messing with the yoke (both to you and the glass nipple).
 

This Does Not Compute

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I mean, it's not an impossible task, but the service manual assumes you're performing the adjustment with the system powered on (so you can watch the image change). One could instead do the adjustment iteratively, where you power down the machine, discharge the CRT, adjust it a little, then power back on and see how close you got. Much safer (assuming you're comfortable working with CRTs to begin with) but probably a lot more time-consuming if you have to take multiple attempts to get the image adjusted just right.
 

pfuentes69

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For me it's terrifying every time I see Adrian (Digital Basement) doing that with the bare hands, but apparently it's just 12V there.
 

rikerjoe

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I’ve done the iteration method of yoke manipulation that Colin mentions with satisfactory results. It just takes time and patience. Likewise, I’m not as brave as Adrian grabbing the yoke on a live machine.
 

GiGaBiTe

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For me it's terrifying every time I see Adrian (Digital Basement) doing that with the bare hands, but apparently it's just 12V there.

It can be a bit higher than 12v, but not more than 50v. The real problem is that it's high frequency AC in the dozens of kHz. The higher the switching frequency of AC, the easier it is to get bit by it at lower voltages, at least in my experience.

The safety factor is working on the equipment plugged into an isolation transformer. That way any potential shock is just going to be localized to your hand, instead of your hand to some grounded surface where it can go through your entire body.

Still, a CRT yoke isn't what I'd consider excessively spicy electrically wise. Whenever I have to adjust a CRT yoke, I just put on a thick PVC glove and make sure I don't get sharp pointy bits stabbing through it.