iMac G5 ALS 20" Thermal Repair

GerrySch

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I hate when this happens. I pulled my 20" iMac G5 with ALS out of storage recently and it works great except what I thought was overheating caused by old thermal paste. It would not overheat when fully mounted in its case but it would if I ran it with the back off. So, after cloning and installing a 2TB SSD system drive (it boots fast with and SSD and fresh install of 10.4 Tiger), I removed the MB tonight and repasted the CPU, GPU and whatever the third chip is on the back of the MB. I got disassembly instructions and kept track of all my cables and screws. BTW, this iMac has been no problem in all the time I've owned and used it except when the PS failed and I replaced it.

Upon reboot, the start up chime plays partially before LED 4 turns on red and shuts down the computer. What I've been able to figure out is LED 4 indicates an over heating condition even though the iMac has been on for about 5 seconds and is ice cold. I took it apart again and went through everything but upon reassembly it still does the same thing. I've tried a couple of SMD resets (there is no 2nd button under the power button contrary to pictures on the internet and OPtion-Command-P-R doesn't work because the iMac isn't on long enough for the key combo to register.

So here I am, with my hat in hand, asking for help. The usual answer is to replace all the caps, which I can do, but all the electrolytic caps look brand new with no caps doming and no leakage or fish smell on the MB. The damn MB looks brand new. But, I'm stuck and I hope someone has a suggestion. There appears to be a lot of confusion about how to reset the SMU but, so far, nothing makes any difference. I did pull the battery out but that made no difference, and since it's on for only a few seconds before it shuts down keyboard combinations don't seem practical. Also, Since this is an over temp situation, where does the iMac G5 measure the air temp to determine how hot the machine is?

I thank everyone for your thoughts and ideas about what's going on. I was afraid this would happen when I undertook this little project of breaking it rather than fixing it. I just wanted to help it stay cooler but instead I've broken it. Before, it worked even with the old paste but now adding new paste, it doesn't work at all. I'd hate to have to replace some 50 odd caps and that doesn't fix anything. i'd rather understand the issue just throw new caps and hope it fixes the problem.

Also, if necessary, where can i find good replacement parts, like a PS and MB if that's what it takes. This was my first Mac I owned so it has a special place for me.

Thank you all,
Gerry
 

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I would look at your heatsink repaste/reassembly with a fresh set of eyes. Is the cpu/gpu heatsinks seated correctly? Are all the screws in? Are all the sensors and fans installed correctly? Before jumping to a cap job, Id take a fresh look at your ressembly and make sure that is not the cause.
 

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Good idea. I can remove the copper heatsink and look at the chips.

Thank you for responding,
Gerry
 

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I've only repasted one CPU - iirc it was a macbook from 2007 and I did it long enough ago that i've forgotten when! Bearing that in mind and Gerrys challenges above, i'm now thinking of leaving my still operational iMac G5 ALS well alone. What would be a sign of a repaste being absoluely needed on one of the iMac G5s?
 

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What would be a sign of a repaste being absoluely needed on one of the iMac G5s?
Hot temperatures up to thermal shut down/freezing.

Ambient operating range for imacG5 is 50-95F. Apple doesn’t state (at least I’ve never found them) cpu or hdd temps but Here on the Apple community forum, user Bosco45 states their normal cpu temps are from 120-130F when under load & HDD 106-113F.

In that same thread I see other users reporting temps in the 140-160 and up to a max temp of 185 (per sys log) where the system shut itself down, so my assumption is that is the ceiling where thermal shutdown occurs.

Hope this helps :)
 
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Also, consider that iMac G5 was released 09-2004 and discontinued 01-2006 so that thermal paste is quite possibly between 19 & 21 years old. Even the best pastes I know of don’t go past 8-10 years where most folks give pastes like AS5 (what I typically use) a functional life span of around 5 years and thermal pads with similar life span (with normal use) of around 5, maybe a bit more for high quality thermal pads.

There’s no harm to leave it as is unpowered but if you plan to rotate it in and use it for extended periods of time and or under load, I’d look at repasting. It makes sense to me considering their age.
 

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Also, consider that iMac G5 was released 09-2004 and discontinued 01-2006 so that thermal paste is quite possibly between 19 & 21 years old. Even the best pastes I know of don’t go past 8-10 years where most folks give pastes like AS5 (what I typically use) a functional life span of around 5 years and thermal pads with similar life span (with normal use) of around 5, maybe a bit more for high quality thermal pads.

There’s no harm to leave it as is unpowered but if you plan to rotate it in and use it for extended periods of time and or under load, I’d look at repasting. It makes sense to me considering their age.
Thanks for the thoughts CoE.

Been using it for quite a few days now with the new ATX PSU and its been completely stable - absolutely no power offs unlike with the old ATX PSU. Left it asleep overnight, running min CPE for multiple hours - lowest i've seen is 53C/127F and multiple hours with 100% CPE is either 72C or 73C/163F. It doesn't get any hotter no matter how long I leave it at 100% - thought the fans ramp up ofc.

Yes its definitely unrepasted - I know as I bought it new in 2005! I understand and agree with your recommendation re the age & likely state of the old paste, but on the other hand its working and so far is completely stable. So if it isnt broke... though I may find a good youtube video and see how complex it looks and schedule it in.

I have a DC-DC booster arriving in a week or so - hoping to get full screen brightness back with 24V to the inverter instead of 12 - i'll likely tackle that first.
 

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Thanks for the thoughts CoE.

Been using it for quite a few days now with the new ATX PSU and its been completely stable - absolutely no power offs unlike with the old ATX PSU. Left it asleep overnight, running min CPE for multiple hours - lowest i've seen is 53C/127F and multiple hours with 100% CPE is either 72C or 73C/163F. It doesn't get any hotter no matter how long I leave it at 100% - thought the fans ramp up ofc.

Yes its definitely unrepasted - I know as I bought it new in 2005! I understand and agree with your recommendation re the age & likely state of the old paste, but on the other hand its working and so far is completely stable. So if it isnt broke... though I may find a good youtube video and see how complex it looks and schedule it in.

I have a DC-DC booster arriving in a week or so - hoping to get full screen brightness back with 24V to the inverter instead of 12 - i'll likely tackle that first.

Heat is usually what destroys a computer & PowerPC CPU’s are notoriously power hungry & hot running :) so keeping its thermal paste in good condition is key to its health & longevity. I liken thermal paste to car oil; just because your car runs and isn’t broken (yet), that 15k mile oil is damaging/wearing your motor regardless leading you towards failure. Thermal paste’s role is not very different in that regard. Also consider user bosco45 was hitting max temps of 130s under load, so your temps are certainly higher than that which I interpret as poorly performing really old paste.

Anways, it’s great that your imacG5 is chugging along. I have a 20” iSight as well that is around 140s when under load but currently lives in a shelf unpowered.

Cool Macs for sure!

Good luck :)
 
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Heat is usually what destroys a computer & PowerPC CPU’s are notoriously power hungry & hot running :) so keeping its thermal paste in good condition is key to its health & longevity. I liken thermal paste to car oil; just because your car runs and isn’t broken (yet), that 15k mile oil is damaging/wearing your motor regardless leading you towards failure. Thermal paste’s role is not very different in that regard. Also consider user bosco45 was hitting max temps of 130s under load, so your temps are certainly higher than that which I interpret as poorly performing really old paste.

Anways, it’s great that your imacG5 is chugging along. I have a 20” iSight as well that is around 140s when under load but currently lives in a shelf unpowered.

Cool Macs for sure!

Good luck :)
Thanks :) I'll update on progress for sure