MicroMac 68030 in a Mac 128K?
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That’s one of these https://www.micromac.com/products/performer.html
I doubt it works in a 128K. It’s listed on the manufacturer’s website as needing at least a Plus. I nonspecifically recall that the 64K ROMs can’t support an 030. I have a Total Systems Gemini in my 128K and it wouldn’t run at all until I upgraded the ROMs.
I doubt it works in a 128K. It’s listed on the manufacturer’s website as needing at least a Plus. I nonspecifically recall that the 64K ROMs can’t support an 030. I have a Total Systems Gemini in my 128K and it wouldn’t run at all until I upgraded the ROMs.
Ah yeah, I forgot to mention that my 128K actually has upgraded ROMs (probably plus ROMs?) from the Levco Monster Mac card on it.
I'm wondering if I can stack the 030 card on the Levco. It probably wouldn't hurt anything to try, right?
Might kill the A/B when you power the double decker kluge up?
You've got the KILLY KLIP needed for a Plus installation, those are rare. If you remove that the Performer should plug directly into the 68000 socket of the LEVCO. Don't think the 68000 is needed IIRC?
Curious board, I've never seen a Plus/Classic configured Performer lacking the inverted socket for Classic installation. Interference with the DRAM ICs would be a problem unless you used the KLIP on the 68000 in place. But that would almost certainly have been too tall to install. May be a lucky break if it works?
You've got the KILLY KLIP needed for a Plus installation, those are rare. If you remove that the Performer should plug directly into the 68000 socket of the LEVCO. Don't think the 68000 is needed IIRC?
Curious board, I've never seen a Plus/Classic configured Performer lacking the inverted socket for Classic installation. Interference with the DRAM ICs would be a problem unless you used the KLIP on the 68000 in place. But that would almost certainly have been too tall to install. May be a lucky break if it works?
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I love the Monster Mac. I think I toasted mine somehow. Have wanted to get my hands on a second board forever.
The 128K Mac can’t use the 128K ROM without a memory upgrade. There isn’t enough room for HFS, IIRC. So your only way to use that MicroMac accelerator with 128K ROMs in a 128K Mac is also to add memory… at which point it is of course no longer a 128K Mac! Put more succinctly, the answer to “can a 128K Mac support that accelerator” is, I believe, effectively “no”.
The 128K Mac can’t use the 128K ROM without a memory upgrade. There isn’t enough room for HFS, IIRC. So your only way to use that MicroMac accelerator with 128K ROMs in a 128K Mac is also to add memory… at which point it is of course no longer a 128K Mac! Put more succinctly, the answer to “can a 128K Mac support that accelerator” is, I believe, effectively “no”.
You can get up to 2MB on a MonsterMac.
But (purist alert maybe, sorry!) I would argue then you are no longer accelerating a 128K. The only thing that distinguishes a 128K from a 512K Mac is how much (or little) memory it has.
If you add memory to a 128K Mac so it has half a meg of RAM then accelerate it, you no longer have a 128K Mac. You have a fast 512K Mac.
If you get it up to 2MB of RAM you have … well something else, I’m not sure what but it’s not a 128K Mac!
But (purist alert maybe, sorry!) I would argue then you are no longer accelerating a 128K. The only thing that distinguishes a 128K from a 512K Mac is how much (or little) memory it has.
If you add memory to a 128K Mac so it has half a meg of RAM then accelerate it, you no longer have a 128K Mac. You have a fast 512K Mac.
If you get it up to 2MB of RAM you have … well something else, I’m not sure what but it’s not a 128K Mac!
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There is a Killy Clip work a like on Github...
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GitHub - Stephen-Arsenault/CloneyClip: CloneyClip is an open source replacement for Killy Clips.
CloneyClip is an open source replacement for Killy Clips. - Stephen-Arsenault/CloneyClip
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Spot on! Were it not for PageMaker, the LaserWriter and Postscript that drove it and imagesetters of the time, the Mac would undoubtedly have failed. Fontographer was the first Illustration App, Madison Avenue was in love with the stuff.