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Gotta go walk a nature trail to reset fershimmeled brain! 🤪

Slot E1 - Tangential Post to get everything into one thread:

Nope, it's mirror imaged in some bits. 😑 Can you get component values from the Slot A schematic?

Yep, no capicitors involved, just the resistor. Using jumper wires attached to all the requisite points I got: Slot A = A1 Slot B = B1 Slot C = D1 Slot E = E1 - with signals jumpered from CSII Slot. This one's tangential, but I'll do a dedicated post here with the info/pic. TattleTech PCI...

Reassembled and fired up the AI8 (llustrator 8) workstation and looks like I totally borked my layouts. Habitually work from solder side view and all is messed up. Total Rework from component side needed. :oops:

Was that the great pixel robbery or did all the links die at a later date? Some of my old pic links pull up random images. :rolleyes:

HRMMM? There's a 6500 schematic out there somewhere? Can someone link it here? Could the resistance and capacitative values for Slot B read out from the logic board components for Slot A?

Fastest knuckle dragging Neanderthal method connector desoldering job to date! Previous connector removal was EuroDIN-120. Hacksaw beats Hot Air hands down! Less confusing illustration with outline of 6360/5x00 card in relation to TAM Riser outline. Intend to replace pic with mirrored image...

Will do. Pretty sure that's the case, but not buzzed. Been procrastinating about desoldering a board to check the traces. Sounds good. Setback from backplane? Gotta pull the contraption out to verify all the measurements. Everything is on a .1" DIP thruhole grid. Yep, electrically identical...

Resistor's value is from Apple's docs, those I can get from the book or find in one of my threads.. Little brown capacitor values, no clue. ISTR needing a special meter (ESR?) to measure capacitance or can I do that with a multi-meter? Haven't ordered PCI connectors yet, incoming parts are for...

Thanks! Looks like a good start. I think I'll do the Personality Card riser first. I have seven or eight desktops with cards that someone gave me. I don't care at all if I blow some up after I cull the worst boards and their A/V cards. edit: thanks so much for the PCIe/PCI pitch info. Haven't...

Yep, that PCIe card was the only thing useful that turned up when I signed up and searched GitHub today. Hoping someone might point me to a better example. Nice to find out that KiCad has the PCI edgecard connector in its library. PCIe has the same pitch as PCI from what I've seen, no? Sorry...

Cardboard prototype installed and cabled up in my 6360 drawer shows how the setback works: Multiple views from different angles are in thread. TAM TwinSlot Riser is up here at the top: 6360/5x00 TwinSlot Riser's down here at the bottom. In between, the TAM card is seen as an overlay of the...

. . . his hands and clothes always smell fishy! I'll look around for the AI files locally. They're posted all over the place at the MLA. :rolleyes: edit: took a look around and apparently they're here. Found my visual AI schematic. My brain does pictures, doesn't grok schematics...

Aha, sorry wasn't clear at all, I'm doing simple, passive right angle risers for PCI Macs and one for the personality card card in Beige G3. TwinSlot PCI Riser for my 6360 with second slot set back for connector clearance. Also suitable for 5x00 models. TwinSlot PCI Riser for TAM - with setback...

Confusing original post. Will have topic title changed for clarity, skip to: https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/pci-riser-design-rework-of-github-pcie-riser-howto.5191/post-45946...

Back on topic: what the heck is going on over there?

I worded my post badly right at the start. The rest of the sentence is in agreement with you: "So get the heck off Discord! Maybe use it as texting and the like. Post information on forums swept by the Archive or all is lost, no?" Agree wholeheartedly about using discord/whatever as chat. So...

That's exactly what happened with one of the projects that I started on a forum that broke off from the MLA over some serious differences way back. I picked up the challenge of gamba's abandoned PowerCache adapter project there. Took it back over to MLA when that forum*** closed up shop. @Bolle...

Amen to all of that, JDW! I tend to post my somewhat less than sane projects over here because of the editing flexibility. Haven't completed one (it's the research, procurement of parts and the process, not the end product that appeals most to me***) far enough along to post it over there. Once...