madcow

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Wow well your board looks awesome and I think there is room for many solutions!


I am exploring a combo of the ATX4VC and RGB2HDMI to create a mac SE that doesn't have a monitor or analog board, but that is a pretty expensive proposition as far as hardware and a lot of pieces.
 

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Here's a video by someone very recently showing this working -

I started working on a board based on the waveguide.se design mid last year to use with an OSSC, but that was before he updated to mention the different config required for a Mac Plus/512/128k, and I think on reflection and after watching the video I've linked, that this RP2040 based one is a better idea. Sigh :) My board went to a back burner after I designed and had a few fabbed, and also a kid.. just getting back to it now and I see things have moved on..
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@landogriffin poked around doing a color video-out on the SE/30 using the PiSCSI emulating the PowerView. However, it seems video refresh maybe not be as quick when using RaSCSI that JCS observed: "Some high-resolution logging shows it [takes] about 83 milliseconds to receive the 21888 bytes of data through SCSI, and about [three] milliseconds to convert it and draw it on the frame buffer."

So, I wonder about using a GPU from Texas Instruments, the TMS34010, with some VRAM. I am unsure if the TMS34010 is available anymore, so I need to figure out something equivalent.
 
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IEEE did an article on the Texas Instruments TMS34010 GPU found in the PowerView and SuperrView. See attached. :)
 

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Genjoke

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Hi. I’m a total technical imbecile. I can only follow very logical instructions 😛

I have an SE/30 board I’d like to put back to life. I got a pico atx to power it up.

Now I’m looking for a solution for the video output.

My question: is any of the solutions mentioned in this thread available as a product or PCB I can get printed and populated?

Thanx
 
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lilliputian

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Hi. I’m a total technical imbecile. I can only follow very logical instructions 😛

I have an SE/30 board I’d like to put back to life. I got a pico atx to power it up.

Now I’m looking for a solution for the video output.

My question: is any of the solutions mentioned in this thread available as a product or PCB I can get printed and populated?

Thanx
Are you trying to fix/replace the internal display, or just looking to add an external monitor to your SE/30?
 

Genjoke

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Are you trying to fix/replace the internal display, or just looking to add an external monitor to your SE/30?

Getting compact Macs in my side of the world is very difficult! You simply can't get them. When they do surface, ppl ask an arm and a leg for it!

I only have the case and the motherboard! I want to hook it to a power source and use an LCD. For HD I'll go with a BlueSCSI.
 
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btb

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Thanks for the answer. You have shown the solution for a Macintosh Classic. I think my Mac Video Adapter FSI 1988 was installed in a Macintosh SE. I found a blurry photo on the net. There is a clip at the end of the white wire, this is probably connected directly to a chip.
But to which one and to which pin?

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I also acquired a Mac SE with one of these inside. The clip was attached to the GLU chip, pin 19
 

btb

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I also acquired a Mac SE with one of these inside. The clip was attached to the GLU chip, pin 19
On the adapter board, the white wire is labeled “dot clock”
Pin 19 of the GLU is, unsurprisingly, a clock line, but I don’t know precisely what it should be called. It’s the same signal used as FCLK by the IWM. Is there no complete schematic of the SE out there? I know SE Reloaded exists, but that’s only gerbers.
 

btb

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Guess I should add some photos so it's clear what hardware I'm talking about.

First, a WARNING! label on top, which identifies it as the "SAYETT DATASHOW HR/M Video adapter":
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The connector on the back:
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Turns out that warning isn't even applicable since they actually used the SE's expansion bracket thing rather than mounting the connector directly to the rear case.

First peek inside:
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Before removing the clip:
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Close-up of clip:
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Adapter top view: text under the left connector reads "MAC Video Adapter FSI 1988 Made In the USA"
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Adapter bottom view: text reads "Eastman Kodak P/N 8010 REV E"
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Both sides are covered with adhesive goo from the black insulating pads that were stuck on.

Trying to show the wire colors/positions on the connector:
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