Netatalk Issues

alexADB

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I tried the docker image with docker run as well as docker compose. But both seemed less transparent and configurable to me and did not work properly for me. And following the documentation page on installing it without docker is really straightforward. So, I'd prefer that for the time being.
 

rdmark

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Nope, not really. It is most crucial, though, to follow the right documentation page.
For Debian that would be this one:

All other how-tos I found or documentation bits did not work for me and resulted in faulty installations, lots of error messages and so on.

As AppleTalk seems to be included in the Debian kernel it seems to be a good basis for building an AppleTalk server. Ubuntu does not have it out of the box, AFAIK
FYI I edited your post to update the URL. I recently made some tweaks to the namings of those wiki pages.

I'm pleased to hear that the installation guide worked for you!
 

NJRoadfan

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@NJRoadfan thanks for the hint. I just found a setting 'Multicast DNS' which was disabled and which I enabled just now. Will try it out later. Maybe instead I will build a second network with an older Netgear switch only for the classic Macs.
Found the post from someone who also had this issue with UniFi switches. They had to disable "IGMP Snooping" in order for AppleTalk traffic to pass the switch properly. Multicast DNS should be enabled regardless, otherwise Bonjour/DNS-SD won't work properly with other devices on your network!

Also, Ubuntu should still have the appletalk kernel module, unless they recently removed it. Its one of the few distros that got it right as they didn't enable the IPDDP support that breaks macipgw. Hopefully that will be a non-issue going forward as the IPDDP module was removed from the kernel a few months back.
 

alexADB

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As I usually use Ubuntu for any VM and not Debian I just checked another VM running on Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS

Welcome to Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.0-105-generic x86_64)

Issuing the command yields in no result

lsmod | grep appletalk

While on the new Debian VM
Linux debianmac 6.1.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Debian 6.1.85-1 (2024-04-11) x86_64

lsmod | grep appletalk

Issuing the command yields in

appletalk 49152 20
psnap 16384 1 appletalk

I don't remember that I unchecked AppleTalk support during the Ubuntu install or maybe the lsmod command is not working like this on Ubuntu or it really does not have AppleTalk support (anymore?). Anyhow, I'm happy with my Debian install :)
 

davewongillies

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FWIW, my Ubuntu 22.04 home server does have appletalk (although the module is not currently loaded)

Code:
$ uname -a
Linux cube 6.5.0-25-generic #25~22.04.1-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Tue Feb 20 16:09:15 UTC 2 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID:    Ubuntu
Description:    Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS
Release:    22.04
Codename:    jammy
$ modinfo appletalk
filename:       /lib/modules/6.5.0-25-generic/kernel/net/appletalk/appletalk.ko
alias:          net-pf-5
description:    AppleTalk 0.20

author:         Alan Cox <[email protected]>
license:        GPL
srcversion:     C6E192BB1D37676C5EE836D
depends:        psnap
retpoline:      Y
intree:         Y
name:           appletalk
vermagic:       6.5.0-25-generic SMP preempt mod_unload modversions
sig_id:         PKCS#7
signer:         Build time autogenerated kernel key
sig_key:        73:3D:CA:BC:1E:7A:DA:0F:A8:94:B7:25:74:1E:B0:23:07:74:4A:5D
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