Pretty much any site that isn’t dedicated to vintage computers. GitHub is but one example among thousands which won’t load in even Classilla under OS9.Can you list some of the websites you're having issues with?
Pretty much any site that isn’t dedicated to vintage computers. GitHub is but one example among thousands which won’t load in even Classilla under OS9.Can you list some of the websites you're having issues with?
This is the reason it is called the PPC Challenge. If it was easy then it wouldn't be a challenge then. LOLPretty much any site that isn’t dedicated to vintage computers. GitHub is but one example among thousands which won’t load in even Classilla under OS9.
The rules set forth in the opening post allow for Linux to be installed and used in this challenge. I myself have never use Linux, nor am I inclined to use it regardless of the benefits. In fact, I have been Mac only since my very first home computer in 1984, which was the 128K model. I have used Windoze extensively, which is of course why I never wanted to own a Windows machine. Again I’m a 100% Mac only guy. And that’s why I am focused exclusively on Mac solutions to the browsing problem, especially for macOS 9 and earlier.It wont really be a challenge as i use my ppc macs daily for web browsing, email, youtube, twitch, discord, irc, etc, but i think i'll play along this year.
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Wow! Thank you for testing that!Okay, I'm in.
I tested the WebKit with Sorbet Leopard and it is the best browser available for Mac OS 10.5.x
The InterWebPPC (G4 version) is much slower, laggier then the Webkit 604.5.6_2.
@JDW I don't know if Mac OS 10.5.9 installed on your Cube but maybe you should give it a try. And then try your web-tasks with this Webkit version.
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Written on an iBook G4 1.42 with 1.5GB RAM, MacOS 10.5.9, WebKit 604.5.6_2
It looks like Github doesn't work with Webkit 604.5.6_2 either. You can browse the projects but for example the "commit comment" and the "last modification date" is not visible - just the placeholder animated grayish gif displayed...Wow! Thank you for testing that!
The G4 Cube officially only supports up to OS 10.4 Tiger, but I see that someone created a hack to get 10.5 on the Cube. I may try that.
Thank you.@fehervaria I'd be interested to see how InterWebPPC runs once the TenFourFoxPEP preferences patch has been applied - which was one of my prior projects before Sorbet Leopard. Post-patch, let me know how its performance compares to WebKit 604.
Failing that, AquaWeb micro (another project of mine) will definitely blow WebKit away in terms of sheer performance, although it requires a standard version of TenFourFox present in order to run. And even that will be eclipsed by Alex Free's port of Links2, at the cost of being able to run site JavaScript, CSS, embedded media, etc.
Side note, WebKit 604 supports a maximum of TLS 1.2, while TenFourFox and Links2 go up to TLS 1.3, meaning the latter can connect to Wikipedia while the former cannot. Therefore, you may also get better website compatibility by using several browsers in tandem rather than relying on just one - thus making your time on PowerPC even easier.
@JDW Sorbet Leopard is distributed as a self-contained disk image, meaning the system has already been installed and configured. LeopardAssist was designed for OS X 10.5's traditional installer medium, which is absent altogether in Sorbet; therefore all the user has to do to install Sorbet is to simply restore the image to an available partition like any other DMG file using Disk Utility or Carbon Copy Cloner.
Apple's official system requirements for Leopard are mostly bogus. In reality, Leopard will run on any system as long as a G4 processor is present - although a Core Image / OpenGL 2.0-supported GPU is strongly suggested if optimal graphical performance is desired.
I hope that was helpful.
Thank you! Yes, it is true, I know, about the Mozilla browsers are generic "slower" than others.The issue with leopard webkit is that it hasnt been updated since 2018 and doesnt support full tls 1.2 and has no support for tls 1.3 at all. This makes even a simple website like wikipedia not work at all. While its fast, its dated and wont connect to many sites. Mozilla based browsers have always been slower, even on ppc linux, but they at least work with most of the modern web.
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Side note, WebKit 604 supports a maximum of TLS 1.2, while TenFourFox and Links2 go up to TLS 1.3, meaning the latter can connect to Wikipedia while the former cannot. Therefore, you may also get better website compatibility by using several browsers in tandem rather than relying on just one - thus making your time on PowerPC even easier.
I hope that was helpful.
I have had no issues with photos in DiscordPPC. For emoji support, you need to copy the 2 fonts symbola.ttf and symbola_hint.ttf to /Library/Fonts - although I did notice that recently with v1.3 that while the blue ?'s are gone, emojis are empty despite dropping the symbola files where it needs to go. Also, Ive noticed an increase in sluggishness on my g4 systems compared to crushing it on my Powermac G5s. I have not tried Dosdude's Discord Lite - I'd like to give it a go but was cornfused how to get it to function with the files on his github.This reminds me I need to reinstall some emulators lol. Should get some old Genesis games running again.
How's DiscordPPC treating you? I've had issues with it just not loading images at all so I've stuck with Discord-Lite.
Shouldn't need to mess with the files. Just download from the latest release and log in.I have had no issues with photos in DiscordPPC. For emoji support, you need to copy the 2 fonts symbola.ttf and symbola_hint.ttf to /Library/Fonts - although I did notice that recently with v1.3 that while the blue ?'s are gone, emojis are empty despite dropping the symbola files where it needs to go. Also, Ive noticed an increase in sluggishness on my g4 systems compared to crushing it on my Powermac G5s. I have not tried Dosdude's Discord Lite - I'd like to give it a go but was cunfused how to get it to function with the files on his github.