The MaciNTosh project does it the way it likely would have shipped, using a separate media to load VENEER and kickstart NT and then provide the HAL and required drivers (which that project does via a RAM disk available to the installer). That project uses a CD for this mostly because the initial supported machines didn't have a floppy. A period NT 4.0 install for Shiner (or any PPC Mac) would use the stock NT 4.0 PPC CD with a boot floppy and a driver floppy just like a stock x86 install would have.
Apple Network Server MacOS based ROMs found
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Ok, I doubled back to start testing again but using the default 4.0 cd. Then start putting all the pieces needed on a floppy trying to emulate a real setup.
@PappaDF Just to confirm, what cd version are you using? I might have picked windows NT 4.0 server when you were using workstation? But I wanted to confirm.
this is where I'm at right now with that setup.
@PappaDF Just to confirm, what cd version are you using? I might have picked windows NT 4.0 server when you were using workstation? But I wanted to confirm.
this is where I'm at right now with that setup.
Yes, I picked:
OEM 000-48303 (October 1996) Workstation release.
md5sum nt-4.0-ppc.iso
# ab37556d72818ed082c1d01c2d7f1898
see https://github.com/pappadf/powermac-nt-hal/wiki/Emulator-Media-you-must-supply
Thanks PappaDF, I'm using the same CD
We have progressed to video now. I'm now making all edits to the floppy and the CD is now default ISO.
Code:
HAL: IoReadPartitionTable: no MBR signature (00000000 00000000)
HAL: IoReadPartitionTable: 0 partitions, signature 00000000
HAL: SRBTRACE7 BULK adapter ee518de8 path 00000000 target 000000ff lun 000000ff status 0000000e
HAL: SRBTRACE7 BULK adapter ee518de8 path 00000000 target 000000ff lun 000000ff status 0000000e
HAL: IoReadPartitionTable: no MBR signature (00000000 00000000)
HAL: IoReadPartitionTable: 0 partitions, signature 00000000
HAL: IoAssignDriveLetters: boot device '\Device\CdRom0' -> E:, 0 floppy 2 disk 1 cdrom
HAL: system path in 'C:\PPC' (len 6 max 130)
HAL: system path -> 'E:\PPC'
Setup has encountered a fatal error while initializing your computer's video.
Contact your product support representative for assistance. The following
status codes will assist them in diagnosing the problem:
(0, 0xc0000034)
Setup cannot continue. Power down or reboot your computer now.
Sounds excellent! This is on real hardware, right?
I've reworked my experimental branch to use the floppy + unmodified CD approach as well (I've pushed all updates to that branch). It almost works fully in the emulator.
Making progress!!!
Your notes have really helped make these new breakthroughs @PappaDF !!!
Past Video issues
Past Keyboard Issues
Past initial OS boot issues.
Now I'm here
Your notes have really helped make these new breakthroughs @PappaDF !!!
Past Video issues
Past Keyboard Issues
Past initial OS boot issues.
Now I'm here
Code:
Windows NT could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt:
\WINNT\SYSTEM32\CONFIG\SYSTEMHardware Profile/Last Known Good menu
VrOpen: Exit - FileId: 2 IHandle: ff8d3d80
You can attempt to repair this file by starting Windows NT
Setup using the original Setup floppy disk or CD-ROM.
Select 'r' at the first screen to start repair.
Program complete - please reboot. ff8d3c00
EXIT called ok0Terrific!
This is on real hardware right? Very impressive! Getting it running on hardware is always a much bigger challenge than in an emulator.
I as mentioned, I have transformed my emulator experiments (https://github.com/pappadf/powermac-nt-hal/tree/pappadf-experiments) to work with a floppy+cd combo as well, and it's now on par with the previous cd-patch-variant, i.e. it more or less works end-to-end:
See example here: https://youtu.be/E61rIaY2BjY (it's a very lengthy recording with a lot of time spent at OF prompts)
The error is trying to load the main SYSTEM hive of the registry. Are the other parts of the kernel loading?
Huge shout out to @trag for building and donating a batch of ANS ROM simms to TD which @jcm-1 sold at VCFMW 2026 and donated $600 in proceeds from them to TD! THANK YOU both! The remainder can be found on Joe's site and any further proceeds will got to TD. https://jcm-1.com/product/apple-network-server-rom-v1-1-20-0/
OK, here is my first draft of the Mac OS Extensions pack. I am now pretty certain I can't boot the internal SCSI with the onboard ndrv alone, but I think the video, Ethernet and startup fixer components are solid. You'll need a 1.1.20.1 ROM for this.
I'm currently thinking of a way to use a PCI SCSI card as a secondary controller, set to a different ID, and boot from that. After all, if the RAID card can do it ...
oldvcr.blogspot.com
I'm currently thinking of a way to use a PCI SCSI card as a secondary controller, set to a different ID, and boot from that. After all, if the RAID card can do it ...
MacOS Extensions pack for the Apple Network Server v1.0
By now regular readers of this blog are quite familiar with my affection for the 1996 Apple Network Server , Apple's Unix-through-and-thro...
oldvcr.blogspot.com
I looked into the HDD-dump a bit (the iso file) and there is a lot of stuff in there that was not deleted when the partition was reformatted.
Apple Network server EVT2 dump : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
A dump of images and an iso image of the hard drive from my Apple network server evt2 I found, it came with 2 drives but as of currently one does not work.archive.org
Yeah, seems like my dreams of being able to just boot Mac OS is a bit of a fetch haha!
Linked is my archive page for it, one drive doesn't work, I think, still tryna work on it, the other was read by my PC, and I was able to turn it into an ISO, but honestly have no idea really how to view the data...hopefully one of y'all smart cats can figure it out n lmk if there's anything cool!
It came from Texas, presumably where it lived it's entire life, I purchased it off eBay a while ago, and now I feel as though I have highjacked the post haha.
Many Photoshop images (8BIM header), Apple internal HTML-files (golden-web?) and such.
Also Lotus Domino references, Mac OS 8.6, Games and random fragments like this:
> > without that, now would it
> ..
> >
> > So, fire away..I really am
> interested (for Hawk's sake),
> > what the story is
> regarding surfer's and the
> LLB??
> >
> > Doc
> >
> > --------------------------
> -----------------------------
> ----------------
> > --------------------------
> >
> > ...that there is a LOT
> more to this story then
> everyone is
> > telling here. Do I have a
> problem with the copying of an
> > archive for your base work
> ? NO. Do I have a problem with
> > someone collecting 3-4 s/
> n's, waiting while someone
> else
> > does all the major
> compiling, then copying THAT
> every month?
> > YES. Saying I hate
> EVERYTHING Doc is involved in
> is untrue.
> > The Pope's site was up and
> in such great order mainly
> > BECAUSE of Doc. I not only
> recomended that site to MANY
> > people, but said what a
> great job that Doc had done in
> > helping The Pope. I
> remember what that site was
> like before
> > Doc got ahold of it. I
> don't hate the good things
> Doc is
> > involved it, I only hate
> what he does to spite others.
> >
> > He HATES me, he HATES
> surfer, he HATES a number of
> people
> > here and if you don't
> believe that, just ask. If
> you've been
> > "observing" for very long,
> I wouldn't have to be telling
> you
> > these things. I'll not go
> into details for two reasons.
> One,
> > he enjoys using alias so
> he can make others out to
> look like
> > liars, and two, because
> I've told the stories many
> times and
> > a wonderful "observer"
> like yourself should already
> know.
> >
> > You want to know what
> started this WHOLE thing? Doc
> couldn't
> > take the opinions of
> someone else. He started
> preaching on
> > this board about "god" and
> "fearing" and a bunch of other
> > CRAP while he proceeded to
> flame a person that will go
> > unnamed cause this isn't
> between me, him and Doc. Why
> did he
> > flame this person? Because
> this person decid
A lot of stuff will be damaged since the files were likely partly overwritten.
But there may be much more interesting files in the disk-image.
-Jonas